3-665.62.06 Hemigraphis alternata
Clades: Asternanae, Lamiidae, Verbenales, Acanthaceae, Stage 6.
Introduction
Boy of around 9, feels bored and sad, alternating with being frivolous and jumpy. Life is not easy as his parents expect something of him but he does not know what. Parents feel distant. They keep secrets for the children, family stories are not communicated. Parents or grandparents have been very hard and beating.
The strategy is to play, have no opinions and take the easy route, one’s own way.
Mind
Confusion, muddled in memory of words and times.
Hard to have an identity.
Natural versus chemical.
Grandfather beating his wife, a family secret.
What goes up, must come down.
General
Sensation: bubble, bubbling.
Themes
Good work ethic, following through, pride in work.
Childlike, silliness, playful, naĂŻve, gullible, no responsibility.
Keeping secrets from children, hiding abusiveness.
Discipline vs. passiveness.
Making choices, decisions vs. being told what to do.
Distracted, disconnected, jumping from subject to subject, muddled.
Hierarchy, being your own boss, creating your own identity.
Sustainability, farming.
Machismo, relationship between father and son.
Bubbly.
Colors pink and purple.
Music; Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, song “Spinning Wheel” by Blood, Sweat & Tears.
Body
Difficulty with word retrieval, mixing up words, rhyming.
Muddled thinking, difficulty processing information.
Hearing: averse to sound, sensitive to noise, hearing full and bubbly, not processing.
Vision: colors seem vivid and bright.
Bursting pain in liver.
Sharp pain Left temple extending to ear and eye.
Sharp, fullness in Left ear.
Pulling, squeezing, tightening in chest, below clavicle and into sternocleidomastoid.
Eyes and nose prickly, itchy and red.
Tingling head, neck and Right arm.
Food, pica.
Background
Hemigraphis is a genus of plants in the family Acanthaceae, consisting of about 30 species and is sometimes included in the genus Strobilanthes. Native to India and Java, hemigraphis is a prostrate tropical perennial that typically grows to 6-9” tall and spreads indefinitely along the ground rooting at the stem nodes as it goes. It is primarily valued as a ground cover for its colorful foliage. Toothed, puckered, ovate-cordate leaves (to 3” long) are metallic silvery gray-green above and purple beneath. Tiny, five-lobed, bell-shaped, white flowers in 1” racemes bloom in summer. Flowers are insignificant.
Common names are Red Ivy, Metal leaf, Aluminum plant, Java Ivy, Cemetary plant and Waffle plant. Vranaropani is the Sanskrit name of Red flame-ivy. In Kerala, it is known as Murikkooti or Muriyan pacha, meaning wound healer. In herbal medicine, the leaves can be made into a paste that is rubbed against bruises, cuts and wounds to promote healing. Murikotti is useful in stopping external bleeding, bloody diarrhea, hemorrhoids, excessive menstruation, controlling blood sugar and skin diseases. Murikootti leaves contain phytochemicals like flavonoids, polyphenols, tannins along with high potassium and low sodium levels which provide curative properties. Traditionally, it has been used in drugs, dyes and food supplements. Hemigraphis can also be used as an air freshener plant.
Sources
http: //mobilearn.np.edu.sg/plantsnp/Mobile/viewentry.aspx?entryID=2175.
http: //www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a514.
https: //keralaponics.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/red-flame-ivy-murikooti/.
https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemigraphis.
665.62.06 Hemigraphis alternata proving
Proving: trituration proving, Bocas de Toro, 22-2-2016.
Master Prover: Jan Scholten.
Pharmacist: Robert Muntz.
Supervisor: Lori Francisco.
Provers: Prover 1: Female, age 33;Prover 2: Male, age 52.
C1
Prover 2: Arm feels shaky. Coffee buzz feeling, extension of coffee buzz, kind of bubbly and light through my right arm and goes to the Left arm.
Prover 2: How are you doing?
Prover 1: I’m good, not really feeling anything.
Prover 2: Did you like the walk?
Prover 1: Yes, I loved it.
Prover 2: Did you like that snake eating the lizard?
Prover 1: I love snakes.
Prover 2: I got a quick picture of the lizard and then the snake attacked it.
Prover 1: I’m glad we saw the monkeys.
Prover 2: It’s the first time you saw the monkeys?
Prover 1: Yeah the first time in the wild, 2 minutes and 20 seconds left. Grabs a green and purple marker and says I’m going to draw.
Prover 2: It’s bubble gum color, like the ones we used to get as a kid in the little packages.
Prover 1: Like the zebra gum?
Prover 2: No, the Double Bubble gum; you got the little comics in them. Double Bubble trouble.
Prover 1: About a minute left.
Prover 2: I’m thinking of those bouncy things kids play on.
Prover 1: The bouncy house. Those are cool.
Prover 2: I think there is something playful going on.
Prover 1: In the remedy? I always feel playful, pretty much. Look at the monkeys, it was there in the wild.
Prover 2: I have a sharp pain in the left temple.
Prover 2: Affecting left ear a bit, kind of sharp, slightly full. I’ve been having trouble with my left ear. I’ve been playing a little doumbek.
Prover 1: It’s cool, looks like grape Kool-aid (referring to the color of the milk sugar).
Prover 2: Keep thinking of these childlike things, childhood. I could take this milk sugar and make some Kool-aid.
Prover 1: So were the only people proving this substance? Interesting.
Prover 2: I just thought I’d wait to the end and I waited to the end to see what group I ended up in. I let it happen. To make the choice between making a choice and letting it happen.
Prover 1: About a minute left.
Prover 2: Still getting that sharp pain in my left temple; extending a little into my ear and eye, but just slightly, it starts sharp and spreads out; kind of dissipates.
Prover 2: Pastel colors are coming to mind as I look at that guy’s shirt (he has orange on).
Prover 1: Sharp noises are bothering me right now, a little more sensory going on, sensitive to noises. I feel like I’m craving calmness.
Prover 2: Sounds are kind of full; like a bubbly sound; feel like there’s bubbles everywhere. Colors are brighter.
Prover 1: I don’t want much sound coming in, but I want to see things. My hearing is really sensitive. I’m feeling okay about it, but just not wanting the loud noises, like the sound of the pestle making a noise annoys me. I’d rather be taking things in with my eyes instead of my ears right now, like bright colors. Things aren’t auditorily processing as good as my eyes are right now.
Prover 2: Processing, yeah.
Prover 1: I almost feel like this is focusing for me.
Prover 1: I don’t feel any other physical symptoms right now, my arm isn’t buzzing or anything. I’m just comparing to what 2 was feeling.
Prover 2: to 1. I like your bracelet.
Prover 1: Its turquoise from Mexico. My grandfather bought if for my grandmother, but they both passed.
Prover 2: Did you have a good relationship with them?
Prover 1: Oh yeah.
Prover 2: When I was a kid I spent a few times with my grandparents.
Prover 1: Where did you grown up?
Prover 2: Grimsby, a little town in Ontario. My grandfather was kind of crotchety. He died when I was young. He didn’t treat my grandmother very well. They hid it. He wacked her on the knee with his cane. She had to have all of these surgeries on her knee.
Prover 1: Why did she tell you that? Were you older when she told you that?
Prover 2: Yeah I was older. Maybe the remedy has to do with hiding things from children.
Prover 1: Were you an adult?
Prover 2: Yeah I was surprised to hear her say that. It was an ongoing thing. She kept having all of these surgeries on her knee. I felt like the surgeons maybe weren’t doing a good job. I’ve always been an idealist. Like when I was a kid, I had this idea that people could obtain perfect health, that’s why I became a Naturopath. Then I found homeopathy. Not everyone can do the same thing. You have to be a strong person. Have to go out of your way for it. I like the idea of people fulfilling their potential or coming into a really good place or accomplishing something.
Prover 1: You like helping them on that journey?
Prover 2: Yeah, I like seeing that happen. I was talking about butterflies earlier this week.
Prover 1: Yeah, like P.
Prover 2: Actually I was with P. I recently had a Red Admiral case and P had a case. The idea of fulfillment in a way. Children grow up and metamorphize, like people fulfill themselves as well in different ways. I think you give a butterfly remedy when people can’t fulfill themselves.
Prover 1: Fabiale.
Prover 2: I was thinking of children again, they’re just in the moment. They don’t necessarily have to fulfill anything, just be themselves, play, a real playfulness. I was talking about bubble gum earlier, like the color reminded me of that.
Prover 2: The color of the leaves is rich (looking at another plant in the gardens).
Prover 2: At first I thought about pastel and then colors started getting brighter.
Prover 1: Vividness for me, less sound more visual. It could be where we are too.
Prover 2: to 1. Do you do homeopathy?
Prover 1: I’m a massage therapist. I have my own practice. I’ve been doing it my whole life. I would make money at holiday parties; my aunts and uncles would pay me to massage their shoulders. I was about 8. I remember helping people fix their neck aches. I didn’t think of it as a viable career until after college, then I went to massage school. It’s just part of who I am.
Prover 2: You have good hands?
Prover 1: Yeah, super strong. Didn’t you see me arm wrestling yesterday?
Prover 2: Yeah you won. I arm wrestled too with F, but I didn’t understand what he said; like maybe I was cheating or something.
Prover 1: The competitive nature of the human spirit.
Prover 2: There’s a trick to arm wrestling; you kind of have to pull back. So you’re pretty strong?
Prover 1: I guess, my biceps aren’t that amazing. I have forearm and hand strength.
Prover 1: Where does this grow to Jan?
Facilitator: shrugs his shoulders. It grows very well here!.
Prover 1: Is drawing colorful feather like picture.
Facilitator: to 2. How did you get involved with this group?
Prover 2: I know S. pretty well, but historically S. has gone to Bowen Island.
Prover 2: to 1. Do you know a guy by the name of Lou Klein? He’s really good. He’s been our teacher, we go there and a beautiful place.
Prover 1: to Jan. How are you feeling?
Facilitator: Better, but having a lot of phlegm.
Prover 1: I will give him some more vitamin C. I have some of those packets.
Facilitator: I read the paper (the ingredient list for the vitamin C packets) and it said how much of each thing. That’s typical of modern, the information is chemical not natural.
Prover 1: I’ve always preferred super nutritious plant forms of food.
Prover 2: I think you mentioned mangosteen earlier Jan, is it from Madagascar?
Prover 1: Gives supervisor the paper she was drawing on and said “I made you something.”.
Prover 2: This power in here reminds me of something.
Facilitator: Yes the mangosteen, the color of it.
Prover 2: It seems very nutritious.
Facilitator: It’s very big, has a hard shell and very delicious.
Prover 2: I’ve only had it in the juice form.
Prover 1: She was talking about that big flat one that is a fruit. There is such a variety of fruits available.
Prover 2: There’s a group from California that have an exotic fruit club. They get cuttings of plants from all over the world, they graft them and grow them.
Facilitator: Why would you graft them? It’s much better to not graft them. Why do you have to live on someone else?
Prover 2: Maybe easier.
Facilitator: I guess easier. So they want to do something natural and they do it unnatural.
Prover 1: Maybe their passion is to bring passion fruit to the world.
Prover 2: There are so many in the world.
Facilitator: They’re difficult to transport. They can’t make enough money.
Prover 2: There are nomads in Papua, New Guinea. The nomadic tribes have gone from one part of the rainforest to the other. They find a tree that offers their starch supply and then they move it. They know all the traditional places in the rainforest. They live there for 6 months and then move on when the starch is gone. The commercial interests have come in and pretty much force the nomads to convert to agriculture. There was a linguist who wanted to maintain the native language. He looked for the last nomadic tribe, he wasn’t even sure it existed, but found there was one left. He went and learned the language so he could document it. Something sustainable, a sustainable nomad to embrace the variety of fruit.
Prover 2: Feeling something in my chest, like a pulling, something I have not felt before. a squeezing in the center of my chest below the clavicular bones. I feel it in the sternocleidomastoid too, something tightening and pulling.
Prover 2: to Jan. Thanks for helping.
Facilitator: I’m very good at it.
Prover 1: okay, starting to scrape, allright. I like the scraping part better.
Prover 2: It’s more fun?
Prover 1: I guess, she giggles a little. I don’t feel any physical symptoms at all, just the noise. I just want to take everything in visually. Maybe I’m feeling more calm.
Prover 2: I’m feeling a prickly itch around eyes; the skin around the eyes nose; he has a whole redness in that area. I was thinking about walking through a tropical area or jungle how one often starts to make contact with plants and you can get so many itches and scratches.
Prover 1: I was thinking of that too.
Prover 2: I sliced my toe today on some type of thistle.
Prover 1: Were you bleeding?
Prover 2: Yeah, there was a slice on my toe. Well, I’ll have to get rugged for the bush. (Both 1 & 2 are laughing).
Prover 1: For your new life as a nomad.
Prover 2: Yeah like strong, calloused hands.
Prover 1: My hands aren’t calloused they’re soft as heck.
Prover 2: No one likes to have the calloused touch.
Prover 1: You can’t have a massage therapist with calloused hands.
Prover 1: It’s starting to look like that ant hill. Is it the excavation hole or the entrance hole (looking at the trituration substance)?
Prover 2: I destroyed your ant hill.
Prover 1: That’s how it goes in nature.
Prover 2: Did you play with ants as a kid?
Prover 1: Yeah, they’re kind of like workhorses. I appreciate the ant’s work ethic.
Prover 2: As a kid you don’t have much reverence for things. I used to destroy ant hills.
Prover 1: Yeah I did too.
Prover 2: Kids can be very cruel to nature, its’ reckless.
Prover 1: Living in the moment.
Prover 2: Reckless in the name of play or mischievousness. Getting that sharp pain in my ear again. I hope this heals my ear.
Prover 1: What happened again?
Prover 2: I think I exposed it to too much doumbek.
Supervisor. What is it made of?
Prover 2: Mine is from ceramic and plastic on top.
Prover 1: Is it like a djembe?
Prover 2: You’ve probably heard it in Middle Eastern music. It’s named after the sound.
Prover 2: to 1. You have to keep the bowl on the table with intention.
Prover 1: They told me that last time.
Prover 1: to 2. You can have this one (hands him a picture she drew. Yeah I made L. one.
Prover 2: I’ll put it on my refrigerator with a magnet.
Prover 2 to 1. Is that your scarf?
Prover 1: Yeah, I like those colors (blue, purple, green).
Prover 2: I bet the worker’s here have a good work ethic.
Prover 1: Panamanian time though; probably a little slow.
Prover 2: I was going to ask him for an extension cord and didn’t. What is a good work ethic?
Prover 1: I know it when I see it.
Prover 2: Intention.
Prover 1: How would you define a good work ethic? See something though maybe, has the right intention.
Prover 2: Yeah, yeah, give them what they expect and then follow through. So if you tell them what you expect and they do what they say then they have a good work ethic, but sometimes hard for people to estimate what’s going to happen or what they’re going to do. Like renovators, they always seem to drop the ball, especially when there’s lots of work around.
Prover 1: Yeah right, you always have to know the right guys.
Prover 2: Yeah, get a good referral.
Prover 1: Wait, does this carry on after lunch?
Prover 2: I notice how the substance is all streaky in the bowl, striated, I’m thinking about skateboarding.
Prover 1: Like a half pipe?
Prover 2: That takes a lot of.
Prover 1: It takes proprioception.
Prover 2: That’s a good word. It’s how to get your senses aligned. It’s getting things aligned and then you have your appropriate sense, get yourself centered.
Prover 1: I’m glad we have the markers today.
Prover 2: That’s beautiful.
Prover 1: It’s a full moon tonight. I’m definitely going swimming tonight.
Prover 2: I like doing things in the full moon.
Prover 1: Like Howling?
Prover 2: Yeah howling! I’ve done some canoeing in the full moon. I took a canoe out at a party; that’s actually how I met my girlfriend.
Prover 1: Wow you really did scrape the shit out of this.
Prover 2: We had a lot of beavers slapping their tails in the river and the slap sounded just like that.
Prover 1: They were definitely being beaverish.
Prover 2: Beaver Cleaver.
Prover 1: Is that like Bieber fever?
Prover 2: Oh like Justin Bieber?
Prover 1: Yeah.
Prover 2: Oh yeah Wally!.
Prover 1: I’m really looking forward to drawing again. I really love to color the adult coloring books, mandalas.
Prover 1: S. got N. a really nice one, I have not touched that one. I have a different one. It was a very thoughtful gift, meditative, take some time out. You can personalize them for people.
Prover 2: Yeah I got my step mother one. This island has a lot of vibrancy to it. Like when I got in the taxi at first, the driver turned on the Latin music and we were kind of bouncing down the road.
2-1. Can you Latin dance?
Prover 1: No, not really.
Prover 2: I have the hip thing down, but not the swing thing, like the salsa hip movement. It’s different in different situations. Like an unknown woman, I try to swing things and get humiliated when I can’t do it. The Latin thing, the guy leads. It’s kind of macho thing.
Prover 1: You might be a good leader just not macho.
Prover 2: I could be a non-macho leader. So, I have to discover my inner non macho.
Prover 1: Your nomad.
Prover 2: With calloused hands.
Prover 2: The dowa of machismo or anti machismo.
Prover 1: That should be a book. There’s a beach down there called Chiquita Beach, they have all those dance clubs there. I asked the cab driver for a good club. He told me La Iguana, maybe I’ll go while were here. Iguana, dance like a lizard. Here lizard, lizard.
Prover 2: Here lizard, I can eat you.
Prover 1: Last night I though R. caught the little gecko. I asked him if he caught it and he said no, but it sure looked like it.
Prover 2: He’s an interesting guy R.
Prover 1: R, S’s husband?
Prover 2: He’s the homeopathic pharmacist, he’s cool, I think that he likes that I admire his adventurous spirit.
Prover 1: How long have you known him?
Prover 2: Just met him. I’ve emailed him a bunch of times. He seems to know me somehow.
Prover 1: What do you look up to in people? I look up to people who live their passion, like L. and her husband. They’ve made their whole life this place. Isn’t that incredible? Can you imagine waking up every day to this.
Prover 2: There’s a sense of pride.
Prover 1: She had pride in it when she was wielding a machete. It was a calling.
Prover 2: Definitely a calling; she was called to where she needed to go on the land when she got here.
C2
Not C2; I never added the milk sugar from the container.
Added it and R. said to go for 20 more minutes.
Prover 1: It’s all good. I get to draw more which I’m excited about. Is anyone here a botanist?
Prover 2: I’ve taken some courses.
Prover 1: I’m reading this book, “State of Wonder” written by Anne Patchett. This woman goes to the Amazon because her friend dies. There are two women, professionals she wanted to find so she could find out what happened with her friend that was in the jungle and why he got this fever. They were walking around scientifically testing plants. I think it was for cures of things. It was kind of like what we did today. This book has parallel lines, or kind of similar. They were in the Amazon. I would imagine very similar plants. It’s a good book really well written.
Prover 2: Feel a little spacey and foggy, like I might have to study how to do this trituration timing before I become a supervisor because I’ll probably screw it up.
Prover 2: Nice (as he looks at the drawing 1 is making). It reminds me of the pink low.
It’s like the juxtaposition of colors, like the bird we saw earlier with the yellow feathers, The Montezuma.
Prover 1: Isn’t Montezuma’s revenge some kind of fever?
Prover 2: You have a good work ethic.
Prover 1: I think so too.
Prover 2: Have to make sure others do too.
Prover 1: Just have to do the best we can.
Prover 2: Best we can is good enough?
Prover 1: Yeah, if were doing our best.
Prover 2: You have to stay on top of it though.
Prover 1: Adds another color. That makes it better. What was that after the sound of a bird? I loved the sound of the rainforest; the white noise last night.
Prover 2: I was hoping my snoring wouldn’t keep anyone up. I did keep H. up, but he didn’t complain. I’m scraping. To Supervisor; How’s your battery power?
Prover 1: (Drawing again) I’m making the jungle floor. I wish I had brown. Maybe I can make brown with the green and the pink, getting creative. This is such a gift, birds swooping, so cool to be here.
Prover 2: When you can be happy in the environment you’re in, not doing, just being. You’re surrounded by something very vital. Instead of having to accomplish something to be vital. The vitality of your environment allows you to be fulfilled, then you don’t have to accomplish anything to be fulfilled. Do you know what I mean?
Prover 1: Know what I mean? Like Ernest, you know what I mean Vern. He was like a caricature of himself. He was like Ernest, dumb guy, kind of simple and always getting into trouble. It was Vern goes to camp or Vern goes here.
Prover 2: I see what you mean.
Prover 1: Know what I mean Vern. Now you’re the time keeper and I’m the muddler. You’re a really good scraper. Feel the love.
Prover 2: You can feel the love by being a good scraper.
Prover 1: I’m so hungry now, like slave labor. Write that down, S. will get a kick out of that. What is the minimum wage here? I want to know more about the culture. Will work for sweet potatoes, but try to avoid the caimans.
Prover 2: Well only the two of us, making more work.
Prover 1: Is this going to make history? She laughs, usually a pretty bubbly person. We started this whole proving out with bubbles, like champagne.
Prover 2: Or Prosecco, that makes you bubbly too.
Prover 1: Yes that’s the best bubbly, I don’t discriminate.
Prover 2: Kind of feel that bubbly in my head now; the clouds in my head are sort of forming bubbles. I was thinking of children blowing bubbles and how they get so excited about it.
Prover 1: Have you ever seen anyone put a person in a bubble?
Prover 2: No.
Prover 1: It’s just a huge bubble wand and it makes an arch over you; you can pop it.
Prover 2: Rollin, Rollin, Rollin, keep those bubbles Rollin (singing to the theme of Rawhide). Bubble in the suds.
Prover 1: She shrugs and winks at the supervisor, giving L. a break, that’s why I winked at her. Starts humming, do you want to see the evolution of my pictures? I like them all for different reasons, they have different evolutions. Maybe I’m getting into my rose phase, like Picasso, no maybe its van Gogh. The point is I can’t remember.
Prover 2: It all gets busted up and floats in different directions.
Prover 1: I think I’m just getting hungry.
Prover 2: I’m famished. I’m becoming ungrounded. There’s no shortcut. Should we take a shortcut?
Facilitator: No, R. is very particular, when you buy something you know what you buy.
Prover 2: They’re already pretty shaky anyway.
Prover 1: What were you going to say?
Facilitator: So you’re all using words and no one knows what you mean.
Prover 2: We were talking about work ethic, people have to know what to expect. It kind of lines up with what you said.
Facilitator: I had a similar feeling of not knowing what to expect and the idea of a boy 8-10 years old not knowing what to do in life.
Prover 2: That’s what I was feeling. I started thinking about butterflies and unfilled dreams and the other side of just playing.
Prover 1: You mentioned talking about keeping secrets from children that was the first thing.
Prover 2: No that was the second thing.
Prover 1: okay whatever.
Prover 2: When I was a kid, my grandfather had hit my grandmother in her knee with his cane, where she had all of these surgeries. She hid all that stuff from me as a child.
Facilitator: What did it mean to you?
Prover 2: It was very surprising; I don’t think it was shocking, but surprising. I just thought that’s what she would do, wouldn’t want me to know.
Facilitator: Did it change your opinion of your grandfather?
Prover 2: Maybe, he was kind of cranky, he was a bit distant. I didn’t really get to know him, not like my grandmother. She was in her 70’s when she told me about it. It was more her bringing it up to me. I didn’t know quite what to do or think. I was still a bit naïve, maybe 17, didn’t know what to say or do, it was a little surprising. I go from remembering to being very foggy in my head.
Prover 1: My word retrieval.
Prover 2: I have broken cognition.
Prover 1: I couldn’t think of the author or musician I was trying to think of.
Real C2.
Prover 2: Don’t tell my anything; I can’t process anything right now. My Dad wouldn’t really acknowledge it. I might have known it inside. I could see it happening because I knew the kind of person he was, a very crotchety old man.
Facilitator: Very similar when a child can’t stand up to someone, for you it was your grandmother.
Prover 2: Kind of a naivety. I think when I was growing up it was hard for me to have an identity in a way. Stuff happened and I felt like I was just floating along. I would be influenced but not impacted.
Facilitator: What do you mean about hard have an identity?
Prover 2: Hard to have an opinion.
Facilitator: Was that hard on you?
Prover 2: Yeah, I probably took the easy route. Talking about children earlier, can just play, and not just be responsible. I heard that word responsible, but there was nothing attached to that.
Facilitator: What was your opinion?
Prover 2: I didn’t know what he was talking about. I could tell he was angry, he needed to explain things more. Kids need that. Sometimes a child doesn’t really express themselves, they need communication or something.
Prover 1: Defined lines to know what’s expected of them.
Prover 2: Discipline is important it gives them structure.
Facilitator: That’s what your grandfather thought too with your grandmother.
Prover 2: I guess so, discipline w/o explanation.
Facilitator: He was very explicit.
Prover 2: In an aggressive kind of way. What does that do?
Facilitator: She became passive, didn’t stand up to him; aggression is about domination.
Prover 2: Erika’s pictures are all very colorful, lots of purple.
Prover 1: Oh yeah.
Prover 2: Purple streaks in the pink background.
Prover 2: We’re getting there. Have we taken it to another level yet? I didn’t know exactly what Jan meant; remember when he was talking about that.
Prover 2: Deep purple.
Prover 1: Also the name of a band.
Prover 2: Thinking of my childhood again, Deep Purple, no it was Pink Floyd. What was the prism album cover? I painted it as a mural in our basement on the wall where my brother & I lifted weights, painted the whole album cover.
Prover 2: I was looking at that plant over there with the deep purple.
Prover 1: Yeah gorgeous.
Prover 2: What’s a deep purple feel like?
Prover 1: I put it together with a spiritual growth, it means different things to different people. If someone were holding a gun to my head that would be my first response, something spiritual. Okay my turn. What are we doing with this, are we all going to keep mixing after lunch?
Supervisor: Were having lunch after were done.
Prover 1: Oh, should have brought a snack. Did that yesterday, I was starving. It let me appreciate my dinner. I probably don’t let myself get too empty, probably good to be empty.
Prover 2: With homeopathy it keeps you in check, you become an empty vessel and filled.
Prover 1: Do they teach you how to do that in school?
Prover 2: A good teacher might suggest it, but I think you learn it. It’s not easy to be unprejudiced. We have a lot of possibilities for remedies. If we go straight to what we know we’ll make a mistake, that’s the prejudice. Maybe just a case where you’ve given a remedy, maybe a recent case, so you need to empty yourself so you can be filled.
Prover 1: So there’s an intuition with the knowledge you have.
Prover 2: Your intuition helps, but more than that, you create a space so that a person can express exactly where they need to be healed. You have to be able to watch that and in a way you can identify when they’re bringing forth what you need to prescribe on.
Prover 1: Cool, thank you for explaining that.
Prover 2: You kind of focus on where the most energy is, kind of allowing, not proactive, kind of an allowing thing.
Prover 1: Like a passivity and it shows itself.
Prover 2: Kind of, you still give some guidance, but still toward allowing what needs to be expressed.
Prover 1: You know what I mean?
Prover 2: Know what I’m talking about.
Prover 1: Know what I’m talking about Vern.
Prover 2: Like Bruce Lee, he liked the idea of emptying himself so that whatever needed to come to him to defend himself against his opponent.
Prover 1: L. look at the bird; he’s gorgeous.
Prover 2: The bird distracted me.
Prover 1: It’s getting caked on.
Prover 2: Cake and icing, made me think of that, especially the icing. The children really like their sugar.
Prover 1: I think we’re pushing it with all of these child references. I don’t know, I’m just letting it be.
Prover 2: Contriving something, is that the word? I don’t feel like I’m pushing it, I’m just saying what’s coming to my head, I’m allowing it. I can’t try too hard. Feeling tingly, mostly in my head, my whole head, a little bit down my neck.
Prover 1: My right arm (he shakes it), it has that tingly feeling. I get that though, from overwork.
Prover 2: Sings; I got that tingly feeling oh, oh that tingly feeling. Like a circulatory thing, like when the blood stops and then comes back.
Prover 1: I wonder what they’re doing (hears a hammer hitting).
Prover 2: Renovating.
Prover 1: But what?
Prover 2: It’s interesting, Jan was asking things about my childhood. I don’t often talk about, it. It’s not that I don’t want to. It’s disconnected feeling.
Prover 1: Okay he can muddle again.
Prover 2: Okay I’m muddling away. Why did you use the word muddle?
Prover 1: It’s a bar thing. Oranges, all that fruit, all that flavor.
Prover 2: Like Five Alive.
Prover 1: Is that a drink?
Prover 2: Yeah five fruits, bursting with fruit flavor. Fruit can make you bubbly too.
Prover 1: I could use some sugar right now, I think I’m crashing.
Prover 2: Crash and burn.
Prover 1: So what does your girlfriend do?
Prover 2: She’s a law clerk, she gets very absorbed in it.
Prover 1: Is she passionate about it?
Prover 2: No she’s OCD. She likes the sense of accomplishment. We lived together for 7 years and kind of split up and are now kind of in limbo. I think I’m optimistic.
Prover 1: So you want to work on things?
Prover 2: I think I have and still do, because she has me out of arms’ length.
Prover 1: Do you think a coping mechanism?
Prover 2: That’s a good phrase.
Prover 1: What do you think she needs to work on?
Prover 2: How to love, how to be open to it.
Prover 1: Accepting. I think I need a definition or something.
Prover 2: Yeah open to um, a kind of authentic love versus a kind of possessive one, or one that kind of helps her to feel in control. Her guard is sort of either what I do or not do, or just from herself, she has a problem with feeling a loss of control. It becomes a guard as far as related on a deeper love.
Prover 1: Do you feel like she tries to control you?
Prover 2: She more controls her situation. A little of me, but its less of that and more of trying to feel in control herself.
Prover 1: Her comfort level.
Prover 2: Yeah she feels vulnerable, on the other hand, she’s very sweet, confusing, she can be very sweet and caring and can step out of it in a way. She’s a little narcissistic, self-focused in a way if I can use the word.
Prover 1: What attracted you?
Prover 2: I feel like this is a psychotherapy session.
Prover 1: I love being in the business, I’m a therapist of a kind.
Prover 2: I’m always attracted to sweet people. Maybe sweet people feel vulnerable and have to protect themselves, then I feel a little shut out or something. Maybe I feel like I have to help them or something, but I’m not that controlling. Maybe it’s good Jan isn’t going to write a book on that.
Prover 1: I use pet names a lot.
Prover 2: You just called me sweet. Sometimes not good.
Prover 1: I also sometimes swear like a trucker, there’s that duality.
Prover 2: You could be a waitress in a diner; how you doing there hon?
Prover 1: Maybe when I’m 80, I’ll do that when my hands don’t work anymore.
Prover 2: I feel nurtured with that sweet type person.
Prover 1: Are you a passive person?
Prover 2: I was more passive in the past, more reactive and have gotten more proactive as time goes on.
Prover 1: Do you value proaction?
Prover 2: Absolutely, an essential thing, but I don’t always do essential things. I have to still grow up a bit and I wasn’t thinking about childhood things.
Prover 2: So you have a mouth like a fish wife?
Prover 1: Is that a Canadian thing?
Prover 2: Maybe.
Prover 1: That’s hilarious.
Prover 2: Are we going to talk about this later as a group?
Supervisor: Yes, later.
Prover 1: Can we drink, play some music? I think that’s my coping mechanism. We have vodka and I’d like to get working on that.
Prover 2: What do you have to cope with?
Prover 1: Nothing, I’m good.
Prover 2: You’re hiding something,.
Prover 1: My life has never been hard in any way.
Prover 2: You were inferring that you’d have to cope with our proving.
Prover 1: Just make it more fun.
Prover 2: Make some kool-aid.
Prover 1: Yeah.
Prover 2: Koolaid, kool-aid tastes great.
Prover 1: Can I stand if I do this? I just need to stretch my legs. As long as I keep the bowl down.
Prover 1: to R.; What’s U. doing?
R. Writing, working on her duties, writing a book on Flamenco.
Prover 1: Has she been to Spain?
R. Yes definitely, she teaches dancing.
Prover 1: I saw Flamenco in Spain, awesome.
R. We have a weekend relationship, beautiful, great and horrible at the same time. The horrible part is that we miss each other.
Prover 2: My girlfriend is in Florida. I feel like I miss her, but I wonder if she misses me.
Prover 2: The Dark Side of the Moon; that’s Deep Purple, no its’ Pink Floyd. That’s the foggy part in my head. That’s the confusing part Deep Purple, Pink Floyd.
Prover 1: I’m hungry, not sure what for? I feel like I could eat anything right now.
R. Do you have any chewing gum?
Prover 1: No.
Prover 2: Do you have bubble gum?
Prover 1: I like gum. I always chew gum.
Prover 2: I like it, but I find that it tires out my jaw and the flavor goes out of it too quick, gotta have flavor. On your mark get set go (as prover 1 starts scraping). I like how the dark green and the purple go together in the leaf of the plant; that’s the dark side of the moon. “I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon.” like the dark side of relationships, that’s what R. was bringing up.
Prover 1: I thought it was the part of ourselves that we don’t know, you only see the lit up part. You can think of it in a few ways.
Prover 2: I said I miss her and I don’t know if she misses me. R. said that’s the dark side.
Prover 1: Music is the universal language; the album, The Dark Side of the Moon.
Prover 2: It’s interesting how people have such diverse tastes, in music or food. I think it speaks to the essence of a person’s being, their taste, desire, sensations.
Prover 1: Like tastes in all aspects of our life, what we are, where we came from, our environment, genetically predisposed.
Prover 2: Choice, your choice is a deep part of who you are, it reflects that, it moves you. This is the work part of our vacation. Did you get what I said about work and play. Come on do it right. He laughs. I’m getting dominating here. It could be fun to be dominating, but you would have to think about the harm you cause.
Prover 1: They have clubs for that.
Prover 2: Clubs to dominate or clubs to dance?
Prover 1: I’m just messing with you.
Prover 2: Messing and muddling.
Prover 1: Our thoughts are getting muddled.
Prover 2: My brain is getting muddled. That’s how I felt thought this whole thing. Such a task master I’m telling you.
Prover 1: I’m just messing with you.
Prover 2: Like a dominatrix.
Prover 1: I see where this is going and I’m not biting. I don’t feel like I’m going to gain weight on this vacation. I’m making good choices, I’m drinking after 5 and that never happens on vacation.
Prover 2: Input output sort of thing, I think the same for me. When we go to Bowen, I always gain 5 pounds. They get a chef that cooks us three meals a day. We do our work and time for lunch and then time for dinner. His names is Dan, Dan the Man we call him. He loves to cook. When you love to cook I think your food comes out good, when you’re passionate about it.
Prover 1: Let your food by thy medicine.
Prover 2: Who said that?
Prover 1: I don’t know.
Prover 2: I say Shakespeare, you just threw a thy in there.
Prover 1: It’s old English.
Prover 2: Some wiggy dude. It’s funny those old court justices all wore wigs. They were guys that were in charge of your life; they could punish you with whatever they wanted, but they’re wearing wigs.
Prover 1: It’s their hierarchy. Is that how they got the phase “wigging me out?”.
Prover 2: It’s a phrase.
Facilitator: Wigging out?
Prover 1: Maybe it came from that.
Facilitator: Like you’re out of control.
Prover 2: Seems kind of funny handing out rules, part of the uniform.
Facilitator: about making yourself bigger, the crown thing. The crown is also the representation of God on earth because you have a crown.
Prover 2: It’s like, don’t mess with me man, I’m God.
Prover 1: Fear of God is the wigging out part, you get wigged because of the fear of God.
Prover 2: That’s deep, Deep Purple. I’m a deep thinker, that’s why I like Deep Purple. There’s something delicious about it, red grapes, red wine. At first I thought it was the leaves.
Prover 1: 1 is tracing the leaf of the plant.
Facilitator: Do you keep feeling the music has a connection to this?
Prover 2: Yes, I keep getting them confused. What’s a Deep Purple song?
Supervisor: Smoke on the Water.
Prover 2: That’s the first song I learned (as he sings the rift). All I can think of is I know how to play something on guitar. If you didn’t know how to play guitar, you could at least play that, all you had to do was slide your hands on the neck of the guitar.
Facilitator: Kind of heavy music, serious rock, a lot of bass.
Prover 2: I think some kind of polarity between being serious and not being serious. Pink Floyd has that song that comes to mind, “Schools out for Summer”.
Supervisor: No, that’s Alice Cooper. One thing that keeps coming up is muddled. They’re working me Jan!.
Facilitator: Yeah, its hard work. I’m working very hard (he laughs). How would you like to be them?
Prover 2: It has a very stage 8 quality. It’s moving mass, have to do a lot of work in a short time and don’t’ have enough time to do it, like moving a mountain, a pressure to get it done. If you go from left to right on the periodic table, an evolution and de-evolution.
Facilitator: It has a decline.
Prover 2: There is a saying, “what comes up must come down.” The stock market, keep that in mind all of the time. That’s how you cope with things. You remember that all the time, what comes up must come down. (Starts singing) “What goes up must come down, spinning wheel goes round and round. Stop all your troubles, a crying shame, catch a running pony let the spinning wheel spin”. I could look up the lyrics, but I’m not going to.
Prover 1: Getting on a roll.
Prover 2: It’s a stage 8 thing. My head is starting to get a little less muddled, I feel stronger, I was feeling weak and empty. Of course, you’re a bubbly girl. I kind of like you’re bubbliness, I didn’t say that yet.
Prover 1: Tip your supervisor.
Prover 2: “Stop all your troubles, (continues to sing), catch a painted pony let the spinning wheel spin”. Songs always get stuck in my head.
C3
Prover 2: What do I do, scrape first?
Supervisor: No, trituration is first.
Prover 2: Oh, okay. Woodpeckers are coming to mind, because I’m hearing those guys pounding with their hammer. Getting a kind of pain in my liver, I’m used to it but really intense. Full pain, bursting, bubble bursting pain. Do you know what that’s like?
Prover 1: No.
Prover 2: It’s not that pleasant.
Prover 1: Are you sure not gas?
Prover 2: No, definitely liver.
Prover 1: I know what that feels like, you know when you get a gas bubble? You said it.
Prover 2: I didn’t say it.
Prover 1: I don’t’ care, out. It’s in and out.
Prover 2: It’s up and its down.
Prover 1: Spinning wheel, spinning around.
Prover 2: Forget your troubles and just spin around. Ardent. Do you know the word ardent? like serious, working with intention, hard work.
Prover 1: I feel like the color might ruin it (drawing a picture with a pen now).
Prover 2: Like adult coloring books, they’re good for your inner child.
Prover 1: I think they’re meditative.
Prover 2: Do you think forgetting about all responsibility is s spiritual thing?
Prover 1: I never thought about it.
Prover 2: I’m a deep thinker. You have these yogis that sit around and meditate all of the time. Are they that calm because they don’t have a real job.
Prover 1: Or did they pick that job because…….
Prover 2: Is authenticity really authentic?
Prover 1: Did we invent authenticity?
Prover 2: Is it really, depending on your perception. To supervisor, come on you have to keep up!.
Supervisor: I can’t keep up; you have me muddled now.
Prover 2: You almost need to record things here. I have a thought on authenticity.
Prover 1: Go for it.
Prover 2: If something is authentic, does that make it easy or hard, if you follow your true calling?
Prover 1: Then you’re taking into account if we believe in God.
Prover 2: Do we make it easier for ourselves or is it God?
Prover 1: I think as humans we just get in our own way, and then just say God didn’t want me to take this path and it keeps them from growing. Was it really meant to be your path or is it God?
Prover 2: If you’re true to yourself, sometimes your environment starts to support you and it becomes easier. When I think of God, the forces around us that support us or we don’t let someone support us, we get in our own way. I can stop if I want to.
Prover 1: No, I’m afraid of him, that’s why I’m staying on task.
Prover 2: We have to know our place in the hierarchy.
Prover 1: I should have brought my wig.
Prover 2: Don’t start wigging out on me.
Prover 1: Where’s a good white wig when I need one?
Prover 2: Maybe they should wear pink wigs. Did you get all of that (to supervisor)?
Prover 1: Giggling and doodling.
Prover 2: I’m noticing the color of the stairs, again back to that pastel.
Prover 1: It matches his pants (R. has on green pants). Singing spinning wheel. Start to muddle again.
Prover 2: You just said muddle again. Thank you for volunteering. For me I feel like part of my duty, sort of a professional duty, but you have a choice.
Prover 1: I want to be part of this and grow in this situation, to sit back and observe. the perfect situation for that and an end goal of self-growth.
Prover 2: That sounds a bit muddled. I read an article on the plane about Ted Talks and the idea if you go out of your comfort zone, it helps your integrate, on a personal level too.
Prover 1: It would be out of my comfort zone to put on a Ted Talk. Do you guys think you could do that?
Prover 2: I think I could, I’ve taught before. If you teach, like you train yourself to talk to people. At first I was very nervous and after a while I thought this is so great, everyone is paying attention to me. I have the ultimate talking sticht and I’ll be listened to. On the other hand, if you screw up, then you don’t want to be listened to.
Prover 1: I think I need food.
Prover 2: Food, glorious food.
Prover 1: Hmmm, getting chalky, it kind of changes. It’s changed since the beginning. What does he add to this?
Supervisor: Milk sugar.
Prover 1: I’m about to eat this! So, E. ate the remedy, the whole fricking thing. I’m in the tree looking for the monkey in there.
Prover 2: You got so bubbly you floated up.
Prover 1: Ahh!.
Prover 2: I was just thinking of chalkiness is sort of the opposite of strong flavor. You know when you have something that is flavorful and chalky doesn’t have flavor?
Prover 1: So there’s a flavor.
Prover 2: So you’re thinking like a texture? Some kids eat chalk. There’s a remedy called Calcium carbonicum in homeopathy, it comes from oysters. So kids that eat chalk or sand or something.
Prover 1: Or paper.
Prover 2: Maybe paper.
Prover 1: What would you do for someone that has pica?
Prover 2: Is that was pica is?
Prover 1: I wonder what you treat that with?
Prover 2: Did you ever see those guys that eat motors and metal and they do it purposely, just for fun? They have metal teeth.
Prover 1: Are they trying to show their machismo by eating metal? What Daddy issues did they have?
Prover 2: Jan was bringing up some Daddy issues for me. I think it was like the book, “Iron John” written by a psychotherapist, John Bradshaw. It’s about how male machismo interferes with communication between father and son, hence the name “Iron John.” Interestingly, my father’s name was John, but, my Dad wasn’t really that machismo, more the lack of communication part. I think there is some importance to machismo, its defining to the male. Maybe a hyper-masculinity. Same with women. Maybe your mother or sister showed you how to put make-up on, getting in touch with femininity. Okay here we go timer lady, passing it to you.
Prover 1: Got it.
Prover 2: Okay boss.
Prover 1: I’m not the boss of you.
Prover 2: Sounds to me like you don’t want to be the boss.
Prover 1: I don’t think this needs a boss, the proving. I like being the boss of my own life. It works for me. It might not be for everyone. You’re going to be a nomad soon.
Prover 2: Yeah, maybe a nomad needs a little bossiness once in a while.
Prover 1: That’s why you have women in your life.
Prover 2: That’s a default of men, okay you’re the boss. The irony is women want to feel like they’re the boss, but the men want to feel like the boss. It’s not really a bossiness, like an expression of your masculinity.
Prover 1: I couldn’t do that (to the supervisor). Are you a good transcriber?
Prover 2: When you do homeopathy, you get good. Did you get all that boss stuff boss. Who the boss? Who the man? L., you’re the man. So we were just saying there’s no way you want to be the boss, but there’s a way you don’t want to be the boss. Being a boss isn’t controlling someone else.
Prover 1: No, bringing out their best.
Prover 2: No, its modern management skills; he repeats again. You have to be the boss but allow the other person to feel they’re the boss of themselves. Modern management skills.
Prover 1: I need to eat if we’re going to continue this conversation. I’m fading away.
Prover 2: What comes up must come down.
Prover 1: I’m coming down.
Prover 2: Spinning wheel.
Prover 1: Is humming Spinning Wheel song.
Prover 2: Etc., etc.
Prover 1: Allright, 4 minutes. You let me know when you’re ready.
Prover 2: Okay you’re the boss.
Prover 1: I’m over it. Let me know when you’re ready boss man.
Prover 2: Okay. My hunger pangs are not part of the proving. Sometimes I get confused, is it pain or pang?
Prover 1: A ping.
Prover 2: Ping pong, a lot of back and forth.
Prover 1: I knew a foster kid once named Pang.
Prover 2: Chinese?
Prover 1: I don’t know, I was in third grade. Don’t really put that down.
Prover 2: You’re muddling with her.
Prover 1: My life lesson for today. This is gorgeous.
Prover 2: See that guy. He is scraping concrete, mixing it in the wheelbarrow. That’s a guy thing mixing concrete.
Prover 1: So, would mixing cake batter be a girl thing? I would rather mix concrete any day. I hate cooking and baking.
Prover 2:; You can’t eat it.
Prover 1: Unless you have pica.
Prover 2: Or you’re one of those metal eaters. Right now I’m so hungry maybe I should. No, I wouldn’t eat concrete.
Prover 1: How about some milk sugar. I know where we can get some of that (she makes the sound of a whip cracking). Cracking the whip. I’m super grateful for this opportunity.
Prover 2: Indirectly you’re helping cure people.
Prover 1: That shit cray. Did you ever rap singers? Like that shit is crazy, that’s what that means, mimicking black slang is horrible.
Prover 2: You can’t get any whiter than that. I just understood that, the latest cray.
Prover 1: No, you used it wrong. I just tuned into the fact that people are always using abbreviations for things. They speak in acronyms. LMAO. Then there’s thinks like crazy. They’re also branding themselves in hip hop culture.
Facilitator: What do you think?
Prover 2: Dynamic between men and women, where women want …………… A lot about work, being the boss of me, children, fathers that are too macho.
Prover 1: I feel like one sided. Nobody asked me about my Dad. It’s definitely control and being your own boss.
Prover 2: Discipline or giving guidance, so there’s a 2 in there.
Prover 1: Lack of communication.
Prover 2: It’s a loss of guidance, but not a rejection.
Facilitator: Did you think of your father as domineering or passive?
Prover 2: Domineering, more right side.
Facilitator: Did you feel loved? 3 & 5 are unconditional love, 2 & 6 are distant, so you belong to it, but distant.
Prover 1: You need to muddle now.
Facilitator: Think about confusion of identity, vertigo, the muddiness, is a 3.
Prover 1: I have not been confused, but word retrieval has been hard for me.
Facilitator: When you think of your story, was your grandmother in contact still? 3 is pleasing, it’s different than adapting. The fact that we didn’t talk about it means it doesn’t exist.
Prover 2: You talked about not liking to public speak.
Prover 1: Yeah, that’s just who I am.
Facilitator: The series is the goal of your life. How you handle it is the stage. How far you are in reaching your goal? All herbalists talk about plants, its intuition, you can do it in many ways.
Prover 2: What’s our last hurrah here? Are you a good artist?
Prover 1: Not at all.
Prover 2: I think you are. Maybe you have a natural talent. Talent is in your hands. Did you ever see that Jerry Seinfeld episode where he tries to force his girlfriend Susan to give him a massage. You have to get her to massage you. He was putting his back in her hands. (Stage 6).
Prover 1: There’s a hair on this, can I touch it.
Supervisor: No, don’t touch it, just leave it.
Facilitator: There was a lot about what to put focus on, you have talked about your childhood.
Prover 1: I was just saying we only talked about one person’s experience and we didn’t talk about the other person’s experience. Maybe if we had other people it wouldn’t have come up. It could have been anyone like a teacher at school, maybe not the grandmother.
Prover 2: In homeopathy, there’s a lot of dynamic between the object and the subject. You have to kind of step out and watch, but you have to be in it at the same time. Now I’m feeling tired, so tired, my voice is getting deeper, more crackly.
Prover 1: I’m getting hungry. I feel good. My tendons on the right arm can feel funny, but that’s not out of the norm for me. I’m totally fine with sound now. It changed about half way through. Went from using color in my pictures to black and white.
Prover 2: Let us be clear. I must be clear on this. When you’re clear on something, then somebody knows what to expect. It’s the first theme of a good work ethic.
Prover 1: Setting the expectation.
Analysis of the Remedy code
3-665.62.06.
6 Angiosperm.
6 Lanthanides: Asteranae.
5 Silverseries: Lamiidae.
6 Phase 6: Verbenales; judge, farmers, unfairness, injustice.
Prover 2: Sub-phase 2: Acanthaceae; distance in relationships, passivity, duality of up and down.
6 Stage 6: Hiding, secret, cover, forced.