1 Ravenala madagascariensis
Number: 3-633.45.10.
Clades: Strelitziaceae, Zingiberales, Commelinoids, Liliidae, Lilianae, Angioseprmae.
Name: Travellers tree; Heliconia ravenala; Urania madagascariensis; Urania ravenala; Urania speciosa.
Introduction
The order has to be maintained and it is not possible to deviate from it. This is not so much an external law, but more in intrinsic natural law of how things have to be. It is not so much that deviations have to be punished as well that deviations lead to disruption and destruction because they do not obey the laws of nature.
Knowing the laws of nature and following them gives strength and balance. It gives direction to the actions of men.
They are often in leading, central positions. Sometimes they can become dictatorial, but mostly they act for the welfare of the members of the family. They are quite benevolent.
Mind
Calm, balanced, trustful to nature and God. The leader of the family, the patriach. Dictatorial.
Benevolence.
Rigidity, unable to look or act in new ways. Aversion: experimentation.
General
General: great strength and energy.
Discussion
Provers: Prover 21, Prover 18, Prover 14, Prover 4.
They went down to the beach. There is a bar and behind it the tree stands and they got in contact with it and the stem construction. It made them think of an aeroplane. It is on the tail of their aeroplanes of Air Madagascar, and Malagassy passports. It looks like a seven armed Menora. Leaves look like palm tree leaves, and the tree is also called travellers tree and in the calix you can drink from the tree. Moreover the tree is used to construct houses and roofs. Somebody mentioned the tree is East West oriented, but it didnāt seem to be true.
They rolled out the leaf and it makes you think of a plastic tablecloth. Chaos now in showing the cloth and flower.
They took all the parts they could have.
In the meantime the dog who was with them slaughtered a chicken.
They had the feeling it was a archaic tree. Seems to be a connection between heaven and earth.
Shoulder and neck pain. Prover 21 felt anger towards the tree. He felt it was difficult to accept the beauty of the tree for him.
Prover 4 was very tense in the neck and a hard job to do. For her it felt like it was not time to do hard work but it was time to play.
Monica had yawning, also had to stretch. Promised the tree that his wisdom was giving forward to the next generation. Will give it forward whatever she had to tell.
Stupid job also for her during triturating and during scraping it was lighter. Prover 14 felt a little sad that the tree felt alone with its wisdom. It gives so much to the people and the tree has an old wisdom. Felt the tree had a very archaic feeling, everything was good, feeling of just being.
Prover 4 had a neuralgic pain in the right elbow and that came back after she had suppressed it with AB in the past.
Prover 21 felt happy to come with the provers, felt indifference and had a strong connection to the tree, to the wisdom, relying on itās meaning.
Prover 4 felt the tree was existing before good and bad existed. One value for all. They all had a feeling of being in balance. Prover 4 wanted to make a sun dance.
Then they came to what the called the problem. The missing of gratitude, recognition, and you are disconnected from the āinner oneā. There is something lost in being one.
Prover 14 was irritated about the āshining thingsā from Prover 4. Life is not so nice always.
Prover 14 wanted more turmoil in the group and Prover 21 felt overlooked by Prover 4. He has fear of authorities, realized it when Prover 14 started to speak about aggression.
When he was 6 years his father restricted him and beat him. His brother could do more than he and he felt humiliated and took a stone and threw it through a window and then his father grabbed him and beat him. After that happened he became yielding.
Prover 4ās father had cancer and was treated with hormones and became female with breasts and he got very mad. It was projected on her femininity which was developing then in her puberty. It was very intense. She became depressive because of that and even suicidal. Wanted to get through this all.
When her father died after a second cancer they were okay during the last days. Still she is living with that aggression. She forces people to be with her, wants to be right and that is very tense. She is not in balance with her feelings.
Prover 21 stays nice always, but behind the aggression stays inside and when
he speaks about it, the tears are still coming. His aggression is that he is silent. He came to his inner sadness realizing his aggression, because then the crying came.
Both the aggression types are that they are not having self-worth. They also tried to keep balance. Prover 4 in her life and Prover 18 during the proving and Prover 14 bringing balance with bringing in the less nice things.
The solution was appreciation, your own self and own aggression, and the aggressors. Everything has to be in the middle, in balance. So the idea might be Stage 10.
Prover 23 says itās the idea of Carbon and Silicon series, Zingiberales.
The water is inside as a treasure. Protection, shelter. Itās used for building houses, so Silica series.
Prover 23 thinks the picture is not yet clear enough, not fulfilled. It stayed in the āexpression phaseā.
Proving Ravenala madagascariensis
Trituration proving, Nosy Be, Madagascar 23-9-2013.
Provers: Prover 14, Prover 21, Prover 18, Prover 4. Notes: Prover 4 Ari.
Prologue
As soon as we came to Madagascar, Prover 14 and I were fascinated by the plant as it seemed to be an emblem for the whole country. Prover 14 asked Prover 18 and I asked Prover 21 to join us. We called ourselves the team of the elder ones. Prover 14 writes: There were troubles to come together, people felt excluded, it was chaotic. The dogs went with us and one of them caught a chicken, we heard the chicken screaming. The tree felt very strong. The leaves are rolled up and the bough is very thick and strong. One bough from the centre of the tree was broken and lies on the floor, it was very fresh. When we walked back, it was very silent.
Prover 4 was facing the tree, she had a feeling of fulfilment, and she always wanted to come to Madagascar to meet this tree. Her longing was satisfied. Prover 18 touched the tree; the tree makes the promise to give its wisdom to the next generation. It is a symbol of fertility. The trunk is the male part, the calyx (cup) is the female part, it receives the water, gives a creative connecting. Prover 18 says the trunk is the past, the leaves are the future. The tree looks like a many arms Candler, a Jewish menorah. Prover 21 says: The flow of energy goes from below to the sky and from the sky to the earth. The presence of life, aerodynamic, lightness not heavy, respectful, the cycle of life becoming new all time, it is always placed from east to west, a compass for travellers(later we find out that
it is placed in all kind of directions). Prover 14 has a bitter feeling in her mouth, neck and shoulders very heavy, thirsty. Prover 18 says work and play are in balance, she tells a story to illustrate this. Prover 21 feels anger as if he can strike someone. It is difficult for him to accept the wisdom of the tree, the beauty, the balance, all those things that he donāt have, he feels envy.
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Prover 4 writes: In the beginning exhaustion, tense feeling in neck expanding
to arms and hands. Triturating is exhausting. But after all that work there will be easiness and we will play. Exhaustion teaches me how to relax, by creativity. Prover 18 is triturating. She is dreaming, lost in her work. She is yawning loudly. Everyday the same work she says, as cooking and cleaning, it Ģs a tiring job. (I take deep breathes and sigh, to make myself feel easier.) She is yawning again, really feels tired doing that stupid job. But it is her duty to do it. Canāt wait for finishing it. There is a slight pain in left head. Prover 18 scratches and suddenly feels herself kind of creative doing it, that gives her a good feeling. Maybe that Ģs why women do all that arts handicrafts, they stitch table clothes. Therefore
she really wants to do her job carefully. Now Prover 14 is triturating. She feels neither male nor female nor as a child. The tree equalizes all that, because it is connected to the old wisdom of earth. It feels lonely with its knowledge. It is a creature out of another world, an old world. A feeling of just being, everything is fine. Everything is okay, indifferent, in a natural sense. It is not exhausting at all for her; she could go on triturating for hours, without feelings, just doing it. I feel a sudden pain at a neuralgic point at my right elbow. This is an old symptom of me which got after an Erythema migrans, which was treated by antibiotics, 25 years ago. Prover 21 has the feeling of not being mentioned by us at all, not being valued. He is strongly connected to the Ravenala. He is full of its intimacy and conscious about it Ģs significance. I call it the tree of paradise. There is neither an existence of good nor of evil. This is the tree of Eden. Everything is valid at the same, indifferent. Everything is right and correct at the same time. Everything is equal. The fan opens to do the sun dance. I invite the sun to have a dance with me. The problem is the missing gratitude, the missing appreciation. We are disconnected from the inner feeling of being one with one self, disconnected from the archaic within us.
Prover 14 writes: I feel dizzy, all kind of stories make me tired. We speak about trust, a blind man climbing 7000 meters dependent on someone else, so he has to trust the other person. Telling different stories, all these stories are too men- tally, it is disturbing, loss of awareness. Prover 18, strong centred, transmitter to give the knowledge and wisdom to the world, protection. Prover 21 is grateful thankful. Prover 4 has a complete good feeling of fulfilment, free from longings.
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Prover 4 writes: Prover 14 feels fear of aggression, lots of aggression, very aggressive, like machetes strokes, like invaders, coming into your land, very rude, the expulsion from paradise. It is not a sexual abuse, it is simply killing, very dark as Kain and Abel, a monotheism arises. Everything gets burnt, gets killed, everything is completely wasted. Oh my god! Prover 21 starts to feel his own aggression, which normally is suppressed always. He has difficulties to accept this inner part of him. I feel pain in my forehead and Prover 14 likes her aggression while triturating. She takes her aggression as part of the whole. She just accepts it.
Prover 14 writes: Prover 21 tells a story that he wanted to be loved as a child. Once he was collecting fruits with his brother, the brother collected more; he felt envy to his brother and threw a stone, when he was 6 years old. He was beaten up by his father for throwing the stone. It was a braking point in his life; afterwards he was very shy and insecure. Prover 4 is weeping from this story. She had also an aggressive father. When he was 45 years old he developed prostate Ca. For this treatment he gets hormones. The female hormones castrated him and made him female breasts, he went crazy. Prover 4 was 14 years old developing breasts and he could not stand this. He became very aggressive, Prover 4 and he beating up each other. Prover 4 would commit suicide. We speak about aggression, aggression is resistance. Children fear aggression. Prover 18 wants Prover 21 to say something. Prover 21 has a fear for authority, once he was treated badly by an officer when he was in the army, that officer made him ridiculous in front of the other soldiers.
Prover 4 writes: Prover 14 is triturating. Lack of self confidence, mobbing, too weak to express some ones own opinion, or to stand up and express oneself. To match with everything and everyone means that someone suppresses even those personal aspects, which really are worth to be seen. It comes because of suppressed aggression, not being able to be in accordance with some ones aggression. The solution could be to express aggression in a very natural way, to experience inner aggression as a part of the physical body and the emotions, as a necessity. This creates the basement for survival, without aggression, no survival. Prover 21 explains about his father, his principles were to break a child Ģs will. Therefore Prover 21 now is unable to live with his aggressions. To break a child Ģs will.
Prover 21 now likes to scratch, he likes it. That Ģs a good chance to fight a resistance, he says.
Prover 14 writes: Then Prover 4 tells another story, she needs her aggression to be creative. When she was 10 years old her parents send her to school in the city. All the other children were 14 years old. She had to be independent, no one looked after her, and no one controlled her. She often didnāt go to school but hanged around in the city, there she learned all kind of bad things. When the parents realized that she was a child who could not take care of herself in the big city, they took her back to the village. The bad things she brought from the city into her village and with that she developed power over others. Now Prover 4 feels sad. Prover 21 says that he cannot avoid his aggression, passive aggression, when you say nothing is also aggression. We speak about respecting our aggression, to give it its true value.
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Prover 4 writes: What is the solution? Find words. Not to avoid. Not to escape. Not to suppress. Practice fighting sports. No life without aggression. No survival without aggression. Express. Connect with ancestors. Connect with the source of aggression. The causes for all that are far in the back. Forgive a humiliation, forgive the cause of aggression.
Prover 18 writes: The solution is to offer oneself appreciation. To appreciate
the value of the aggressor when appreciating ones own value. Solution is to live ones own value, to show it, to feel it. To be centred within one self, to be concentrated in one self, to be totally you, to be totally me.
Prover 4 writes: To be is absolute and unconditional, a matter of course and nothing to be questioned for. Everything is in equilibrium, as in Stage 10, as Palladium, Gadolinium or Platinum. The personal value is the central theme.
If some one is not sure about his personal value, this could be the source of aggression. I am, therefore I exist.
Epilogue 25-9-2013, Prover 4.
Lots of dreams, donāt remember them. There is no need for analysis, no need for looking for further solutions, that Ģs just it. Itās it. I feel free. I am free. Ravanala is the source of all existence. Return to the source. No hesitate; no longer hesitate about a hurt ego.
Epilogue 25-9-2013, Prover 4.
Prover 4 got some more inputs, when resting a day on the beach, reflecting on the proving of Ravanala. Prover 23 agreed to put it down at the proving paper. The expulsion from paradise leads on one Ģs own responsibility.
The problem of Ravenala is the tracing for inner balance, tracing for inner forgiveness of personal guilt about being involved into themes of violence. This is not a natural relaxed balance, which we know from Stage 10. To keep such a balance, someone constantly has to be under tension. As if a bow is under tension, the arrow easily escapes and the fire is opened again to start the riot keep on going. All energy is needed to keep this tension upright. No further development is possible. It Ģs a stuck situation like in Stage 4. This is the picture of the inner judgement.
Ravenala reminds us of an entirely existence and shows us how to compensate in harmony to take oneās own responsibility for life, to continue personal development on earth, including all qualities and coinages. No more stories, no more excuses, no explanations, no more sentences.
Enjoy freedom without remorse.
Proving Ravenala
A kind of āoverviewing waāā proving.
Provers: Prover 11, Prover 2 and Prover 17.
They took a branch of the white Bougainvillea. They crowned Prover 11 with
it for the benefit of the country. They felt they were in a powerful position and they wanted to realize a better life.
Prover 11 was purity, Prover 17 authenticity, Prover 2 integrity for their Queendom.
Sometimes with power you lose yourself in it and get in a gap.
But people are self-responsible!
Then we came to the history of Madagascar with a queen called Ravanalumana. They asked the French to protect her, but they betrayed her. This was mentioned but there was confusion also about it.
A common idea between the two provings might be a kind of ādemasculinizingā, in the case of Prover 21 and the father of Prover 4.